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Bluedharma
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Tigherland
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Been there, done that. Had something equally ignorant ha |
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AirportBum Scott wrote: | I'm probably late on the response and I did not read all the post, but it sounds too like he wants "all info removed" as though you have something to do with the FAA related information regarding his aircraft. I think he fails to understand that the information on his aircraft is open record. Unless he request otherwise, his pilots license info is also public domain.
I ran into something similar to this where a picture was being used for financial gain, and they got it off of one of those "pay for picture" websites, but it was clearly not paid for. I asked for my picture credentials to be displayed more prominently, and they became belligerent. It was at that point that I contacted a lawyer and was given legal advice. I again repeated that I am not asking for compensation, but the credentials to be displayed and be done with it, or not to use the picture at all. To this they came at me with I was trespassing and lacked permission to take a picture of their plane (it was at a fly-in that was open to the public) They believed the guise that "it was there plane, coincidentally the airport owned the plane, he was the airport owner, and therefore, it's their image." I then threatened legal action (I actually didn't have a strong case, don't be fooled with the copyright laws and the copyrights per website, one is free and not binding, the other one requires a payment of $35 per picture to actually copyright, not to mention any red tape and wait time. A lot of people think that their image is safe under a webpage's terms of use; sadly it is NOT, however, it's rarely a huge issue.) and contacted the webmaster to get it removed and to find out the process of how they obtain their photos. The webmaster stated that they used the correct channels for obtaining the picture, which it was at that point that I said "oh really.." and provided them with the link, my data, and EXIF data, and I requested their insurance information for the Webmaster and the people using my image. Needless to say, that "legal talk" of asking them for their insurance information was enough to finally make things happen and the picture was off the webpage within seconds.
People think incorrectly that pictures of aircraft are private matters. I have been stopped at airports and told I have a "weird" hobby by cops and TSA. Others wrongly assume that taking pictures of airplanes violates some sort of TSA post 9/11 act. The general public is in a sense doing their part to be vigilante, but at the same time, most are incredibly naive and ignorant to what the laws actually state.
Not to give attention to the "other" website (to which I have not had a picture accepted since 2004 and consequentially have boycott) here is the picture that I speak of.
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I agree with you on the other sites. I have kept from them too. I had several great photos and they were turned down becuase so much editign was required from them. I don't have time to eidt everyone of my photos to a musuem quality. Sure I wil do my best. But to my surprise I have seen other photos that were giving the thumbs up and some of these pics, the sun was blocking or other bad things. I have been here for over three and I love it. _________________ J.Barbour |
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Doug Robertson
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Timothy Aanerud
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Ztex wrote: | Timothy,
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As for the other photo,
Was the owner asking about copyright as it pertains to your photograph? or is he one of the folks that think they own the copyright to your photograph since it is their airplane in the photo?
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Said individual wants to discuss the legal basis to claim a copyright.
The tone of the email exchange seems more like this to me: "I entered my aircraft registration number into an internet search engine and I found a photo of my aircraft and I'm pissed." For some unknown reason this individual is upset that a photo of their aircraft exists on this website with a copyright notice because they were at a public airport on a day where their was an public event that included a pancake breakfast, 3 B-25's, a P-40, a P-38, 10 T-6's, a BT-13, an N3N, numerous other general aviation aircraft. It was the best attended Blaine Aviation Days at the Anoka County Airport in many years.
So, if this person is truly concerned about copyight notices, I thought I would bring up the topic of allowing other copyrights licenses. This individual has not asked me to remove this photo yet. My first contact was a request for my phone number and address. No motives stated. This seemed like phishing to me. Or just a means to simplify the tasking of getting my address so this individual can send a intimidating letter via certified mail. Answering the question to supply my contact information is like asking the condemned to supply their own rope for their hanging. But, to be fair, I do not know what this individuals motives are or what remedies they might be seeking.
Ztex wrote: | ...I understand there are certain entities that claim copyright of their product and try to prohibit commercial exploit of images of their products...
That is a tough one. The CAF claims this right at times.. |
My neighbor Max Haynes www.maxair2air.com has had the problem with CAF on an aviation book that he published. It seems kinda odd of CAF headquarters to go after him since he spins websites for the Minnesota CAF wings. |
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Bluedharma
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