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Bluedharma



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: STEALING PHOTOS!!!???????? Reply with quote


I noticed that the Moderator of the Aircraft forums is cclamber07:
I was just surfing the web... around FlightAware and saw your outstanding Gallery. (if this is you...if not I apologize....)
cclambert07 != cclamber07 ??? who knows.



http://flightaware.com/photos/list_photos.rvt?page=3;user=cclambert07
Then I noticed that one of the photos looked... well... familiar???
N486QS
http://alfa.hou.flightaware.com/dropbox/retriever.rcl?id=090cca3da0175124506e2544e2b37de0026af594

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-b8f22ed3950c54d48e21cec240de7afe58ae322d;user=cclambert07;o=51

Why is this picture the same as this???
http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircrafts/small/106/106585.jpg

Why is MY picture on that site!!!!
click link below the photo.

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-25b75fe0f10703fba6d8b33c85a425676c5a36d5;size=full;user=cclambert07;o=94
nice prop blur...

OR THIS.

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-a9c9d10711769b4b02328e3593e1337f630c4357;user=cclambert07;o=113


Dude that is really wrong to do this without asking!!!!


Note to all members of this site.
You may want to check out his gallery.
http://flightaware.com/photos/user/cclambert07
You may like the work.
IT MAY BE YOUR WORK!!!!

cclamber07 (again if this is not you I apologize....)
If not... you are going to have a "small" problem.


Oh and I love this photo by Doug Robertson.
http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircrafts/small/132/132649.jpg
http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-1213399561-d136d82056ae741ec13f9d5bcb99cad80ecbadbe;user=cclambert07;o=232

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Bluedharma



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm.
http://discussions.flightaware.com/viewtopic.php?t=6841
(Bluedharma the unhappy).

  Hi Bluedharma 
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John Little



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Location: Centennial, Colorado

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Hi Bluedharma Reply with quote

Thank you again for alerting me to the illegal use of my photos from Airportdata.com and being posted by user "cclambert07" on FlightAware.

It aoppears that this individual has a habit of stealing other peoples works, and then claiming it as his/her work.

I have an attorney on this, and he has written an email that I conveyed to FlightAware.

I hope that I do not have to remove all of my works from airportdata.com or other sites, as I like for people to enjoy the works, and as far as I know, NO ONE from the core group of loyal airportdata.com submitters has ever taken works from each other without permission.

This was the most positive part about AD.com. Everyone here has a great deal of respect for each other.

It is too bad that one son of a bitch decided to try and screw it all up

I guess that AD operators may have to design the website that will prevent the saving of a photograph by right clicking. This is being done on all of the photo websites now, and it is for this very reason.

It is just a shame....as cclambert07 could have asked, and if he/she had left my copyright notice intact, I would not have lost any sleep over their posting it to another webiste !

John L.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Hey Blue Reply with quote

Better look this clown over again at FlightAware.....I just found 6 more of my photos with cclambert07 claiming ownership.

I have copyrights on every photo I take that I post, and I think we are going to have to teach this A$$ a lesson in manners, and not stealing other peoples property.

John

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  Ditto on what you said John! 
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Bluedharma



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Ditto on what you said John! Reply with quote

John Little wrote:
Better look this clown over again at FlightAware.....I just found 6 more of my photos with cclambert07 claiming ownership.

I have copyrights on every photo I take that I post, and I think we are going to have to teach this A$$ a lesson in manners, and not stealing other peoples property.

John

John,
I am going to have to agree with you!
Like John, I am willing to share my photos, as long as credit is provided, and I know where they are (in case someone wants to take them "off-line").
This is 100%
WRONG
WRONG
WRONG

I love airport-data.com and I do not blame this site for this problem.
My photos are here to share with airport-data.com users and the pilots who fly these fine aircraft.

The FlightAware staff had better be taking action soon.
http://discussions.flightaware.com/viewtopic.php?p=64549#64549

Best Regards,

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Glenn E. Chatfield



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess none of my photos are good enough to steal!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: ?? Reply with quote


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Felix-PRPS



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ppl... im new here and i'm starting my database here too... I have this situation but mine was inverse... A guy called Joey get all my helicopter pictures at Airliners.net and he posted them here. I get in contact with the A-D.com adiminstration and they rapidly removed all the photos. After this situation all my photos have Watermark...

Is possible that Airport-Data.com add the Watermark option to protect our photos from this guys...?? This page offers a nice tool to create your own database. It's perfect for the spotters like me since keep all my job organized on internet and also I contribute with the web page. A watermark would be really nice hope the administratio have this feature in mind.

Thanks for all and happy spotting!!

Felix Bahamonde

   
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Airport-Data
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I am in shock to discover the situation. I have shot an email to our cclamber07 to clearify if they are same person.

I will also contact FlightAware administrators to get this issue cleared. I have no doubt that they will co-operate without any delay.

Meanwhile, thanks for the suggestion on preventing stealing photos from this site. I will implement some measures ASAP.

Ken

   
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Doug Robertson



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken, this theft of copyrighted photos HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. I received email about this quite a while back. Other aircraft photo sites are also involved as acceptors of stolen copyrighted photos from this site of yours. The other sites always removed the photos when advised of the problem, apparently. I asked the email sender to make it your problem as well, because it reflects badly on your site. Finally, the egregiousness of the thefts involving many photographers should bring about justice. Kick the culprit off the site and ban the individual's computer URL so that this doesn't resurface with another alias. No pardon, no forgiveness. I thank Paul for calling my attention to the theft of one of my photos of N5828S in most recent (today) private email.

You will recall a Forum entry with theft of my photo of a Cessna 182 with unusual color scheme without permission to use-that Forum was moderated by cclamber07, who did nothing absolutely about it. Perhaps now we all can understand why. Birds of a feather flock together!

Now, all these other Forum entries with the evidence should finally bring about the downfall of the thief. Copyright law is under US Code 17. Theft is under US Code 18. Theft of intellectual property is a felony crime, upheld in many court cases.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not only copyright violation of aircraft photos, verbal descriptions have been "lifted" as well. This could be considered a violation as well. I have reviewed my past emails received about this, and my original Forum post about the problem. Ken, you apparently did not see or read that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug,

What's the URL of your original post regarding photo theft? I might missed it.

Ken

   
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To All,

I have added some small script to prevent right-click on photo images, a tiny step towards anti-theft.

Photo watermark will be next, it may take a while. Personally I don't like watermarks, that's why I didn't do anything while one of our members (Daniel Compton) suggested a while ago. Now it seems I don't have a choice.

Ken

   
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken, the URL is http://airport-data.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=834 It is under Photography dated 8 October 2008 as I recal.

Dougl

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did read that. As I said in last post, I don't like watermarks, and didn't expect the issue escalate to this level, so I didn't do anything.

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