Airport-Data.com Forum Index  
  Airport-Data.com » Forums  Guest: Log in |  Register |  Search |  Memberlist |  Usergroups |  Profile |  Private messages |  FAQ 
Aircraft Quiz #92       
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Airport-Data.com Forum Index -> Chitchat
  Display posts from previous 
Display posts from previous:   

  Aircraft Quiz #92 
Author Message
Doug Robertson



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 1751
Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Aircraft Quiz #92 Reply with quote

1. What odd classified (at the time) American Top Secret military aircraft ship-board launch and recovery system required the pilot of a Piper L-4 aircraft to start the aircraft's engine by climbing out the aircraft's generous side door opening, bracing one foot on the landing gear strut and successfully hand-propping the aircraft's engine?

2. Using the same Top Secret aircraft launch and recovery system, the pilot of a Stinson L-5 did not have to start the aircraft's engine the way described in question 1 above. Why?

3. In what major war conflict was this classified system successfully used? Be specific as to the exact battle site.

4. Bonus question-what allied country was provided just one of this highly secret aircraft launch and recovery system for evaluation?

I suspect this true quiz is perhaps my weirdest yet. Have at it! All questions require correct answers.

_________________
PP ASEL
Link to my photos- http://airport-data.com/photographers/Doug+Robertson:84/

   
Author Message
moxy



Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 158
Location: Old Windsor, England

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Brodie System

2. Electric Starter

3. Lead up to Okinawa in WW2

4. The Royal Air Force tried it out in India.

For those interested Doug, if one looks on You Tube there is a splendid film showing both the launch and recovery of the aircraft.

_________________
They are not planes, they are aeroplanes.

   
Author Message
Doug Robertson



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 1751
Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats, Rob-you got it exactly right!

The Brodie system was the successful brainstorm of Lt. James H. Brodie of the US Army to provide air observation of a convoy by basing one or more systems on convoy ships to help detect enemy submarines from attacking the convoy ships. It was never used this way, however. It was conceived to be used on land also, to deploy liaison aircraft over jungles. It was tested in prototype form in the Gulf of Mexico from a ship successfully by early 1943.

It was successfully used in the Okinawa campaign in the Pacific ocean.

So, what was it? The operational Brodie system consisted of two horizontal booms attached to the ship's hull with short masts on an LST (Landing Ship, Tank) carrying a taut cable 300 feet long suspended 50 feet over the ocean. L4 and L5 liaison aircraft used a "hook" device to suspend the aircraft from the cable. The speed of an LST was only 8 knots, so steaming for aircraft launch or recovery was done into the prevailing wind. "Landing" or retrieving the aircraft to hook onto the Brodie cable was done in the same way. The L4 and L5 pilot and observer had to rappel down to and up from the aircraft

The system worked so well in test practices at Fort Sill, Oklahoma with a 500 foot cable that at least one pilot from 1,000 feet altitude shut down his engine and "dead stick" trapped his aircraft below the Brodie cable in preliminary tests. Tests were also done off San Diego, California over the Pacific ocean. The system was highly secret, developed and tested under the auspices of the US Office of Strategic Services, OSS which was the forerunner of the present CIA-Central Intelligence Agency.

In June of 1944 a Brodie system was installed on LST-776 that participated in the Okinawa invasion and used there successfully. LST-776 Brodie system liaison aircraft flew directed-fire missions for 24 fire missions from 155mm howitzers on Keisa Shima, 8 miles from Okinawa that supported initial successful beach-head landings on Okinawa.

The British liked the Brodie system and tests were done in India on a land-rigged system, but with retreat of Japanese forces from Burma-the usage was dropped.

Incidentally, my late cousin Augie in the US Navy 1941-1945 was a sound-powered talker on the deck of an LST during the invasion of Tarawa Atoll where the Japanese forces were imbedded in reinforced concrete slit trenches and the US forces first used flamethrowers to overcome them and secure the atoll to rebuild a runway on it.

As an aside, I made several trips to Okinawa on Navy business when I worked at the Naval Missile Center in the late 1960s before it reverted to Japan. There was a lot of US military history and bases on Okinawa, Naval aviation, US Marine Corps aviation, USAF aviation and the entire northern end US Army forces when I worked there.

Thanks again for the quick and correct answers.

_________________
PP ASEL
Link to my photos- http://airport-data.com/photographers/Doug+Robertson:84/

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Airport-Data.com Forum Index -> Chitchat All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1
View previous topic :: View next topic  

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum

Copyright 2004-2011, Airport-Data.com. All rights reserved.
Airport-Data.com does not guarantee the accuracy or timeliness of any information on this site. Use at your own risk.
Do NOT use these information for navigation, flight planning, or for use in flight.